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1. HonkyTonkSamurai
   
   The Golden Boy

   im not even sure i told this forum but, sometime ago i was getting together a band
   a damn huge one IMO
   2 drummers, a percussionist, me + one other guitarist, bassist, singer

   ......
   its amazing how subtly and slowly that fell through to the point that i didnt even realize it till today
   first one drummer fell out and i thought, ok cool; we still got the other one
   then the percussionist, no problem this isnt latin jazz or anything, he wasnt 'crucial'
   then the bassist, which was ok becasue the the singers a damn good one as well
   then the remaining drummer ceased communicating with me and remaining members
   the singer dissapeared a few days ago
   and the other guitarist doesnt wanna have anything to do with a band after this fiasco

   its funny if nothing else

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2. Breakfastime
   
   Moderator

   It's hard to get a band up and running. Once interest wanes the thing will dry up real quick if there's no immediate prospects.

   It helps to start booking gigs as soon as you can-even before you're ready. THEN the whole group has something to work towards-there's a deadline. I like the challenge of getting a band up and running in a short time. Rather than beat the thing into the ground trying to perfect every little thing before you go public, I figure why not get out there and tighten the thing up on stage.

   Sorry to hear your band fell apart HT, they certainly weren't very dedicated...it's not your fault.

   Next time try starting small-with just one or two other people, record every rehearsal, and once you've got it sounding pretty good-go book something! Right away! Then hopefully you can get it on stage before people start losing interest in the project.

   Once a band is gigging, it takes on a life of it's own, momentum builds up, the players are (hopefully) excited about doing it. But musicians are like cows: you gotta keep feeding them and they'll be content. You don't have to start out gigging three times a week. Once a month is fine. Once a week is better...

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3. henry
   
   Key Master

   Sorry to hear that HTS.

   Perhaps you on acoustic and a guy on snare with brushes would do nicely at the coffee shops? :D

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4. Breakfastime
   
   Moderator

   You know...henry is on to something there. Screw the band! Do solo gigs! THAT'S where you'll find your drummer and bassist!

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5. HonkyTonkSamurai
   
   The Golden Boy

   I might do that, but then I'd have to get into the local music scene and that just pisses me off
   i cant stand the big guys
   heres the guy that everyones all in love with, cant stand the little....kid....
   http://youtube.com/watch?v=fgm-6UI73LI

   he's been playing as long as anyone can remember, and he sounds just like SRV
   he's big because his dad was in big local band and knows everyone

   meanwhile im here, sitting passive aggressively not caring much for music except playing it

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6. vardi
   
   Cult Leader

   HonkyTOnk, just say fuck'em!
   build your own little scene.
   that's the only way to do it.

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7. Breakfastime
   
   Moderator

   Every town has a kid who's dad taught him to play just like SRV.

   What the world at large needs is a unique talent...like yours.

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8. HonkyTonkSamurai
   
   The Golden Boy

   thanks guys, id start my own scene but ive no idea how

   btw Vardi your music is siiiiiiiiiiiiick bro

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9. Breakfastime
   
   Moderator

   Start your own scene, lesson one:

   Get a gig somewhere. Start playing there. Return and play more gigs there. If you get fired, go someplace else and play...

   A band like Black Flag could not get a gig to save their lives, played parties and put on their own shows in empty warehouses...had to put out their own records...eventually, they changed the face of music. The entire 80's American hardcore and thrash metal scene wouldn't have happened if not for that one band.

   Now that you're in college, you're right in the middle of a potential audience.

   Honestly, I'd say *maybe* ten percent of being a musician is purely musical, the rest is networking and marketing. 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration.

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10. vardi
    
    Cult Leader

    just say fuck the scene. there is no 'scene'. its just a fucking illusion. there is nothing that comes in between a musician and his audience.
    it's just an illusion configured by the media.
    kick up some dust, and the rest will follow.
    remember, it's all in the head.
    don't let your head get in the way.
    just do it. it's like any other job.
    book a gig at a café or somewhere, anywhere, like once every two weeks. then gradually start playing outside of your own town, in the next towns. eventually people will take notice.
    if you read the curt kobain book, you will notice that everybody thought they were to ordinary to make it, nobody expected anything in beforehand.
    that's just the way it is.
    PROVE THEM WRONG.
    that's your job.

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11. vardi
    
    Cult Leader

    and thankx.

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12. Steelbones
    
    Member

    ^ Nirvana WERE bloody ordinary!

    They didn't "make it" until they had a major label spending millions of marketing dollars on them.

    Is that the example we should follow?

    The phrase "putting the cart before the horse" springs to mind.

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13. vardi
    
    Cult Leader

    i mean that people didnt think they were arty enough.
    in olympia.
    whatever, misunderstand all you want.

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14. vardi
    
    Cult Leader

    and yes, they had their own following before they 'made it'.
    i mean what is that anyway?

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15. HonkyTonkSamurai
    
    The Golden Boy

    BT I'll probably do that actually.....
    i know a bassist whos entire frame of mind is to play shows regardless of the music
    so i could get him no prob

    ill get me a nice crowd and start doing that, i ran into a friend of mine who had moved to seattle
    a vet of our jazz/blues scene for the past 10 or 15 years, hes forcing me to play shows with him so that'll be good exposure

    *sigh*
    now i just need marketing :P

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16. Breakfastime
    
    Moderator

    Sorry to burst the bubble there Steelbones, but Nirvana were already extremely popular worldwide well before they signed with Geffen. They were touring the US in a van and playing sold-out club dates in LA at least two years before "Nevermind" was released, they'd toured Europe opening giant shows for Sonic Youth, and had worldwide press and radio play from their debut album-"Bleach" was one of the most popular titles in the Sub Pop catalog.

    In a word, they were ready to pop-and they sure did!

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17. steinn
    
    Key Master

    It's true, Nirvana were really dissed in olympia, especially kurt.

    I think for some reason it's "cool" to disrespect him because his songs were relatively simple or "unoriginal" or he didn't have van halen's guitar skills.

    Whatever, the fact remains that if you listen to some of their live recordings, the raw energy and emotion put into their music makes it unforgettable and magnetic. I'm not ashamed to say I *really* enjoy nirvana, and they are to date one of the bands I've listened to the most.

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18. Breakfastime
    
    Moderator

    Nirvana were a great band! Cobain wrote some great songs! It's true!

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19. vardi
    
    Cult Leader

    i never meant to say they werent original. they were. but they were also a continuation of what happened in underground rock in america in the 80's, they were the surfacing of that movement.

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20. Breakfastime
    
    Moderator

    Well, in all honesty they weren't really all that original, just a continuation of the American underground out of the 80's. Certainly influenced by all the SST bands etc. But they were really good, unlike a lot of the bands who "grunged up" in their wake.

    They were right there when that whole thing (punk underground)was fixing to pop and it was just a matter of the right band getting there first-that was them. We (meaning the musicians in and around that scene at that time) all KNEW that the underground thing was gonna explode at any moment, we could feel it. Hair Metal could only last so much longer, and in L.A. the punk (or whatever you want to call it) thing was happening again after something of a lull.

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