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  1. I'm currently searching for a place fit for a studio where we can record and, hopefully, mix our own stuff. I'll talk to some people I know in the local town council about getting in touch with the people in charge of the real-estate owned by the town of Akureyri.

    Anyone have any input as to what to look for in terms of the building's organization or such?

    My own idea is that it would be cool to be based out of an old factory or something like that, though I don't exactly know what tall ceilings will do for acoustics.

    I was thinking I'd put sound dampening on the floor and 2 walls, so it'd be a reasonably live and fun room to mic. And hopefully constructing some sort of monitoring booth.

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  2. I think it would be best to get some space where there are a few rooms of different sizes (good if it's a fixerupper), then we can put varying amounts of sound isolation in the rooms if we want. Probably ending up by finding a big and small room which are adjacent to each other, and set up there the main recording/control pair.

    But I still like the factory-esque idea, but for that we might have to end up building two rooms within a larger hall, one recording room with proper wood and soundproofing stuff, and a control room, although the option of recording something in the larger hall with it's bare concrete walls could be great for authentic reverb and stuff =D

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  3. wow, this is cool.
    I'm happy for you guys, but are you guys financially stable enough for this?

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  4. Actually housing is not that expensive out in the country.. however we're more looking around now to see how much this will cost, so we'll know when it's a possibility..

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  5. I've set up studios in houses, warehouses, apartments, industrial spaces, you name it.

    First, what's your budget? Sometimes you can find a place for free and it'll work for months or years before you have to re-locate.

    Anyhow, once you settle on budget and start looking, it's probably best to reserve design ideas until you start actually seeing spaces. When you walk in, start making notes! I wear a size 12 shoe, so I walk the rooms heel-to-toe to measure the room dimensions. It helps to write this stuff down. Once you have the dimensions, go home and map the thing out to scale. NOW you can start designing your studio.

    Do this with every space you visit, and then you can start assessing your options-price vs. location (security is a major concern when you have rooms full of expensive gear and people coming and going)vs. actual space/need for construction, etc.

    Will your new landlord allow you to build walls, etc? That is another concern.

    For me, whenever I walk into a place, I consider this stuff anymore. it's a weird obsession: "how would we turn this into a studio?" Sometimes you see a place and it just makes sense, other times not so much.

    Houses can be real good, ideally though(if you have the budget) renting some sort of commercial/industrial space or warehouse allows you the freedom to design and build almost whatever you want. Of course, this gets expensive.

    Mostly, what you want in you studio is a control room for your gear, and preferably, a seperate cutting room (or 'live' room). An isolation room or two is nice, though not necessary.
    If you're building, then focus on your control and cutting rooms first. You can always add more rooms later if you're building. It's nice, though not necessary, to have a window between the control and cutting room.

    Acoustics and isolation are important-but remember these are two different things. I've seen people spend lots of money on Sonex thinking it's soundproofing. It's not.
    Sonex (and products like it) are used to treat the acoustics inside a room. They do not prevent sound from escaping the room. That's gonna require some serious construction to create an isolated space.

    There's some good books about this stuff, I'll have to dig into the library and get you some titles. I could write a book on this stuff (and almost started to here, sorry)based soley on my ecapades in the recording world.

    So first, you gotta figure your budget, what sort of gear you're planning on using-for instance, a computer-based system means you can use a smaller space...if you've got an old reel-to-reel and mixing board, you'll need more space just to put the thing. Either way, don't make the control room too small. Guitarists might want to cut in that room (with their amp tops close at hand, and speaker cabs placed elsewhere), five or more people could be in there at onceto argue/help with a mix, somebody might loan you an old console that you just can't say 'no' to (I know this sounds farfetched, but with studio gear, a lot of times people would rather see it get used than sitting around collecting dust). I know of several people who had studios and did not own one piece of gear-but they had a space...hey, my brother-in-law has my studio crammed into his tiny apartment!

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  6. Dude! Excellent info as always, BT :D

    Yeah, isolation would require some sort of room-within-a-room. But I think that's not something I'm going after. I'm more going for a great sounding place to record in. One that doesn't rattle or echo too much.

    Definitely computer based. And make it as relaxed as possible.

    I just have to get in touch with some people in the next week and see what the options are. It might be that we would have to postpone this thing until we have actual cashflow. But I'm hoping we can get some sort of temporary facility running this year.

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  7. henry, focus on getting your gear together first-you can run it out of your house until you find a proper space.

    All that other info was extracurricular, sorry.

    I was putting the cart before the horse...

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  8. Well, the point is I don't have room to record all that stuff at my home. And will have even less after I move a couple of weeks from now.

    I talked to this guy I know who's in the town council and stuff. And he pointed out the town owned an old schoolhouse right near the center of town. A really good spot. He says some similar activity is going on in there.

    The house has been standing since well before WW2. Has really thick walls, has recently been refitted with new windows if I remember correctly, and has a fantastic view. Is also right in the arts center of the town.

    He's going to look into who I need to see about getting a space there.

    I'd be so thrilled to get a spot there. I used to go to that school :D

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  9. Steelbones
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    Hi Henry!
    Thanks for the invite.

    BT has told you all you need for now, and, as he said, a bit more besides.

    But there's one little point that I think could do with greater explanation.

    When you isolate an acoustic space, it's not just to save your neighbours ears, or comply with noise control laws. The flipside of a sound-proofing is that you create an acoustically neutral space in which to create your sound.
    Having a great natural acoustic is fine until you want a different sound, and then you can find yourself going to some quite extraordinary lengths to defeat the natural acoustics.

    Having said that, the building you've described sounds like it has just the right construction for a nice dry sound. And if the high ceilings are a problem, you can achieve an awful lot with some fabric hangings.

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