http://andrymi.com/community/ Andrymi, a collection of music nerds Tag: recording en Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:23:59 +0000 http://andrymi.com/community/topic/if-you-could-pick-just-one-album#post-786 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:31:36 +0000 BladeZ 786@http://andrymi.com/community/ </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/your-myspace#post-618 Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:10:52 +0000 vardi 618@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p><a href="http://myspace.com/vardimusic" rel="nofollow">http://myspace.com/vardimusic</a><br /> <a href="http://myspace.com/hallvardurasgeirsson" rel="nofollow">http://myspace.com/hallvardurasgeirsson</a> </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/recording-engineer#post-598 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:05:16 +0000 vardi 598@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>shit! then maybe we have to put up a myspace for her </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/recording-engineer#post-596 Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:00:29 +0000 steinn 596@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Really?</p> <p>On my computer (which is in Iceland) the links work, and quicktime tries opening them. The server which they are hosted on is located in the US. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/recording-engineer#post-595 Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:33:49 +0000 Steelbones 595@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>I can't actually get the links to work. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/recording-engineer#post-593 Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:44:49 +0000 steinn 593@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>aif files are raw audio files, similar to wav.. what player did you try using BT? </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/kakistocratic-krusade#post-585 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:52:11 +0000 HonkyTonkSamurai 585@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>BOY!<br /> im an 18 year old man! </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/kakistocratic-krusade#post-584 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:38:18 +0000 henry 584@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Didn't get a chance to listen until now.</p> <p>I dig that man. I mean I fucking <em>dig</em> that one dude. To be damn clear about this, that's one track I diiiiiiig. :D</p> <p>Lovely. Just lovely. You're way too young to be expressing this much soul. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/kakistocratic-krusade#post-575 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:38:08 +0000 Breakfastime 575@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>That's cool! Like some mutant DiMeloa/McLaughlin monster from Mars or something....</p> <p>I like! </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/recording-engineer#post-574 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:30:38 +0000 Breakfastime 574@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Well damn I couldn't get it to play! </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/your-myspace#post-572 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:29:43 +0000 Steelbones 572@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Another new song is up on myspace.</p> <p>It's called 3x3=9.</p> <p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/neilcleland" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/neilcleland</a> </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/your-myspace#post-571 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:26:15 +0000 steinn 571@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Good stuff man! I just added you as well on the 'space =) </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/your-myspace#post-569 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:03:36 +0000 Steelbones 569@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Just put a new song up on myspace.</p> <p>King Contrary Man is a cover of the The Cult's cover of a Robert Johnson song, and I recorded it for fun and to practice some recording techniques. It's a little rough, sorry.<br /> Music and lyrics: The Cult, Robert Johnson.<br /> Vocals, rhythm guitar and bass: Neil C.<br /> Lead guitar: Phil K.</p> <p>Here's the link again:</p> <p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/neilcleland" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/neilcleland</a> </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/kakistocratic-krusade#post-564 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:42:27 +0000 steinn 564@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>I like it man, fuckling good work, keep it up! </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/recording-engineer#post-558 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:34:26 +0000 vardi 558@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>i've been recording and mixing a project for a friend. she's gonna put it out in iceland. here's some of the results. It still has to be mastered though. this i did right before i left.<br /> <a href="http://vardi.andrymi.com/audio/elin/master/01%20killing%20me%20softly.aif" rel="nofollow">http://vardi.andrymi.com/audio/elin/master/01%20killing%20me%20softly.aif</a><br /> <a href="http://vardi.andrymi.com/audio/elin/master/04%20thula%20b.aif" rel="nofollow">http://vardi.andrymi.com/audio/elin/master/04%20thula%20b.aif</a><br /> <a href="http://vardi.andrymi.com/audio/elin/master/06%20my%20funny%20valentine.aif" rel="nofollow">http://vardi.andrymi.com/audio/elin/master/06%20my%20funny%20valentine.aif</a> </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/kakistocratic-krusade#post-553 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:55:21 +0000 Steelbones 553@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Like your new song Tonks.</p> <p>Keep up the good work. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/kakistocratic-krusade#post-536 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:57:08 +0000 HonkyTonkSamurai 536@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>oh yeah<br /> <a href="http://myspace.com/honkytonksamurai" rel="nofollow">http://myspace.com/honkytonksamurai</a> </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/kakistocratic-krusade#post-535 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:21:59 +0000 HonkyTonkSamurai 535@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>thats right, a new tune</p> <p>whatcha think? i really went for a semi-Neil Young type of tone </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-513 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:18:14 +0000 vardi 513@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>sound like music to my ears! </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-508 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:19:31 +0000 Steelbones 508@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>I think it's a matter of how fresh you can keep your ears.<br /> There are a few techniques for doing that, the most obvious of which is to not listen to your recording for a while, and go listen to something very different.<br /> It's amazing how well and quickly that can work.</p> <p>I think BT's right about what he said, it's probably best to get the mastering done by someone who wasn't involved in the recording and mixing.</p> <p>Having said that most mastering is done in recording studios, and it involves the same techniques and skills as mixing, they're just applied in different ways. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-503 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:50:43 +0000 henry 503@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>I was joking with the cockblock thing, ofcourse. :)</p> <p>What I meant was that BT said, if I understood correctly, is that the best people for the job are people who specialize in mastering, and don't mix at all. That is if I understood him correctly.</p> <p>I don't necessarily agree with that. I think a sculptor can make a good painter aswell (see Michaelangelo's Sistine Chapel). :) </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-496 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:01:25 +0000 Steelbones 496@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>If BT was going to "cockblock" me (decorously put Henry, most tasteful) he'd either come straight out with it on the forum, or send me an email saying "Hey! What up?"</p> <p>And I totally endorse what he has said.</p> <p>The technical side of mastering is indeed a balancing act between what the meters/displays are reading and what your ears tell you.<br /> The reason for this is that there are some aspects of the sound that the meters can read better than your ears, and vice versa.</p> <p>And I don't have any formal qualifications, but I do have at least 15 years of hands on experience, most of which was gained in 4 professional recording studios, working with engineers that had years of experience themselves. (BTW I'm not saying this in answer to BT, but rather to explain my qualifications to Vardi et al)</p> <p>I won't go into the potential processes involved in any given mastering situation, but rather explain my professional ethos.<br /> When mastering my own recordings I might say "that's good enough", and leave a few perceptible imperfections in the final product.<br /> But I never do that with other peoples work, what would be the point. I'll have to live with the final product just as surely as the artist will, and my professional and personal reputation will suffer if I do a bad job.</p> <p>And although much of the mastering process is purely technical, there are areas where imagination, creativity and taste are essential.<br /> In these areas I usually provide the artist with a number of different mastered versions, and then let them decide what they like best.</p> <p>One final point that I'll make is that mixing and mastering might be related processes, but they are most definitely seperate.<br /> I believe that mixing should take place in a multi-track recording studio, and the benefits that can be gained from a program like Pro-Tools are by and large only useful in that setting.<br /> The mastering process I would offer you would only be for the final stereo mix, I really wouldn't like to mix anything without the hands on input of the artist involved.<br /> Mastering on the other hand is very much like the final polish on a piece of high class wooden furniture, or the final road set-up and tuning of a new car, and the creative input of the artist is usually nowhere near as important.</p> <p>I'll blow my trumpet about only one area of my work, and that is my work rate.<br /> I work much faster than anyone I've met, so you won't have to wait long for your finished product, or for any further changes you might require if you're dissatisfied with my initial work. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-494 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:55:43 +0000 vardi 494@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>I definitely don't want projects to get stuck because of technical details. that said, it is important not to stop the flow of the music being created, to the availability of the finished product, whatever form it will take. it is important to put together a good team. for example bergur e. sigurðsson takes care of all the graphic design, giving the cd's a unified look. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-491 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:53:54 +0000 HonkyTonkSamurai 491@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>I wish I had something to offer here, but sadly all I can say is that what BT makes sense and Bones could master my album anytime :P </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-490 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:30:48 +0000 Breakfastime 490@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>No, that was no jab at Steelbones' expertise. I'm not doubting that he knows what he's doing. What I'm saying is: most people don't know what they're doing when it comes to this area of audio engineering.</p> <p>I've seen studios advertise that they'll do it all in-house: from sticking the mic in the bass drum through mixing and into the mastering stage.</p> <p>I would never want the same guy who engineered the record to master it. For a lot of reasons. Not just because it's a whole 'nother deal, but because when it comes time to master a project, you want an engineer who specializes in mastering, and has never heard the project before. You want fresh ears, and experienced ones at that. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-487 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:21:37 +0000 henry 487@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Yeah. I for one am anxious to hear Steel's console chops. =)</p> <p>Given the age of Andrymi and our limited resources, I doubt any similar label has the level of expertise at its disposal through friends and benefactors like Andrymi does through this community. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-486 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:15:52 +0000 vardi 486@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>thanks. i am handing this record i did to somebody tomorrow, but it would be ideal to have someone available, when we at andrymi are going to put something out. So thanks steelbones, I will let you know.<br /> Breakfasttime, thanks for the remarks, I am sure this is the right way to go. </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-484 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:15:01 +0000 henry 484@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>This is interesting: Did BT just cockblock Steelbones ? ;D </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-482 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:19:35 +0000 Breakfastime 482@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Mastering is one area of the process that can REALLY "make it or break it"...sure, there's lots of people who have the Pro tools (or similar) program to do this...but it's better to get somebody who's done more records than they can remember. Having a friend do it for free with his new computer, well...it might just sound like you had your friend do it for free with his new computer, if you get my drift.</p> <p>Mastering is the stage wher the final mix is brought up to industry standards, volume -wise, EQ-wise, etc. In the old days, it was a 'mystery' stage, being performed by engineers with legitimate technical backgrounds. These guys wouldn't even LISTEN to the recording, and would perform all their adjustments by watching meters as the tape rolled. In a truly professional op[eration, a different 'master' was prepared for each format: LP. cass, or CD-due to the different technical limitations of each format.<br /> Seriously, 25 years ago, you could count the number of mastering operations in the US on one hand.</p> <p>More recently, the computer age has put "mastering programs" into the hands of anybody...but that doesn't mean they are qualified to handle the process properly.<br /> The right tools in the wrong hands can do more harm than good!</p> <p>Ideally, you want to bring it to somebody who just does mastering, and has never heard your record before. The reason for this? Well, you (or your artist) has heard the record a million times by now, and are aware of every little detail in there. Hand it to a fresh set of (experienced) ears, and let the pro take over from there. I don't see any problem in an artist recording and mixing his own work. But any artist worth his salt (or any who has heard what a lousy mastering job can do)would wisely hand the final mix over to an experienced mastering pro.</p> <p>I liken this stage of the process to doing an album cover: an artist does the design, and ideally hands it off to somebody experienced in the printing process to do the color seperations and deal with the specifications of the cover. Sure, you might have your little brother draw the album art...but are you sure you want him to do the color seperations and then print the cover itself? hell no, you want to leave that to somebody who does that professionally.</p> <p>On a recording, an artist writes the songs and records them...and then (ideally) hands it off to somebody with lots of experience in getting THAT to the next stage, (i.e. mastering) because that's a whole 'nother set of technical demands.</p> <p>One of the drawbacks of the 'liberating' DIY recording ethic that's been made possible by the digital revoloution is that nowadays, there's a flood of new, independently released CDs out there. 20 years ago, there would be maybe 30 new titles released every week. Seriously. Now, there's at least 30 new titles released every HOUR. Seriously. One way to rise above the crowd is to have a professional looking and sounding product, and a hard-working marketing team to back it up.</p> <p>so, you don't want to skimp on this part of the process... </p> http://andrymi.com/community/topic/mastering#post-481 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:57:17 +0000 Steelbones 481@http://andrymi.com/community/ <p>Yes I have fairly extensive experience of mixing and mastering.</p> <p>What do you have in mind? </p>